Wednesday, November 9, 2011

Way to Impress Them, There, Norm

Since I'm still not back to 100%, I appreciate Nick Peters bringing to my attention these two links -- one to a Muslim site, one to an atheist site -- showing that Norman Geisler's clumsy handling of the matter with Mike Licona is raising exactly the sort of mockery it was expected to. Of course these folks will always try to roust out problems, especially over any sort of disagreements, but it's not just the disagreement but the way Geisler handled it that's getting the attention.

Friday is a holiday, so the Ticker will return Monday.



  1. Just wanted to comment and say that Craig Blomberg and professional scholars have been saying there are legendary accounts in the gospels for years now! Where is Norman Geisler on those examples as well?

    For example in; The Historical Reliability of the Gospels by Craig Blomberg, which I am sure you are familiar with JP. On page 20 dealing with Form Criticism it states;
    "A few are termed ‘legends’, and are often, though not always, regarded as unhistorical accounts of Jesus or the disciples, designed to illustrate some virtue or vice (e.g. Lk. 2:41-49 or Mt. 273-S)."

    Now, seeing as though Liconas actual part in the book doesn't say the resurrection is unhistorical it says that a particular portion of a resurrection narrative may be poetic. Here we have Blomberg saying that some verses written in Luke 2 may not be historical but may be a way to show character traits of Jesus, namely an unhistorical rhetorical device. One could call it a poetic device just as Licona called Matthew 27 portion a poetic device.

    Just was reading and thinking, and thought I would drop by. Also I am the guy behind CreationWiki on YouTube!

    Keep up the fight JP.

  2. Geisler may not have gone after Blomberg, but I recall that Thomas and Farnell did in The Jesus Crisis using much the same panic-button polemic and anachronistic eisegesis.

    Thanks for the good word. I will indeed be keeping it up, in fact, post tomorrow on this too.

  3. Ahhh, I see, I will have to give The Jesus Crisis a read through.

    I am behind you JP, and many others are. Take it to the establishment!